[Taxacom] Nomenclatural availability of preliminary electronic versions of taxonomic papers

Stephen Thorpe stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Tue Oct 13 17:58:27 CDT 2015


There is no such thing as page priority in zoological nomenclature.

Stephen

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On Wed, 14/10/15, Scott Thomson <scott.thomson321 at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Nomenclatural availability of preliminary electronic versions of taxonomic papers
 To: "Frank T. Krell" <Frank.Krell at dmns.org>
 Cc: "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
 Received: Wednesday, 14 October, 2015, 11:38 AM
 
 Hi Frank,
 
 I find this an interesting
 topic and have a question, I am currently
 reading both yours and Alain's papers. I
 accept this is a rare scenario
 however it
 does happen. In the event of a later reviewer of a
 taxonomic
 work which has named several
 species in the same work, decides the taxa are
 not all valid and wishes to synonymise them
 into less taxa (hypothetical
 example here)
 if we are accepting the final immutable version whether
 or
 not it has the metadata are you
 suggesting that if we need to use
 pagination
 for determining priority, we take that by implication? By
 that I
 mean just use the logical sequence of
 the pages to determine priority. Or
 once the
 version with the metadata is out use that to determine
 the
 sequence of the descriptions, but use
 the date of the final immutable
 version as
 the date of publication? There are very old texts where that
 was
 necessary so its not without precedent
 however to my knowledge no recent
 papers
 required this.
 
 Sorry for
 what sounds like a nit picking question, its not meant to
 be, I
 just like to see the bases covered and
 its a difficulty that came to mind.
 
 Cheers, Scott
 
 On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Frank T. Krell
 <Frank.Krell at dmns.org>
 wrote:
 
 >
 Dear Colleagues,
 >
 >
 my paper on the same topic that Dubois et al. suggest to
 reject is also
 > available on Research
 Gate and academia.edu:
 >
 > https://www.researchgate.net/publication/274372707_A_mixed_bag_when_are_early_online_publications_available_for_nomenclatural_purposes
 >
 > https://www.academia.edu/11757528/A_mixed_bag_when_are_early_online_publications_available_for_nomenclatural_purposes
 >
 > I consider my
 suggestions a more realistic and workable approach.
 >
 > All the best
 >
 > Frank
 >
 > Dr. Frank-T. Krell,
 Chair, ZooBank Committee
 > http://zoobank.org
 >
 Commissioner, International Commission on Zoological
 Nomenclature
 > Curator of Entomology
 > Department of Zoology
 >
 Denver Museum of Nature & Science
 >
 2001 Colorado Boulevard
 > Denver, CO
 80205-5798 USA
 > Frank.Krell at dmns.org
 > Phone: (+1) (303) 370-8244
 > Fax: (+1) (303) 331-6492
 > http://www.dmns.org/science/museum-scientists/frank-krell
 > lab page: http://www.dmns.org/krell-lab
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > -----Original
 Message-----
 > From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu]
 On Behalf Of
 > Alain Dubois
 > Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 6:29 PM
 > To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
 > Subject: [Taxacom] Nomenclatural
 availability of preliminary electronic
 >
 versions of taxonomic papers
 >
 > Dear Colleagues,
 >
 > We published in the *Bulletin of
 Zoological Nomenclature* a paper dealing
 > with the electronic availability of
 preliminary versions (so-called 'early
 > views') of taxonomic papers containing
 new names or nomenclatural acts.
 >
 > This paper can be downloaded at:
 >
 >
 >
 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/282651131_Nomenclatural_availability_of_preliminary_electronic_versions_of_taxonomic_papers_in_need_of_a_clear_definition
 >
 > or
 >
 >
 >
 https://www.academia.edu/16552783/Nomenclatural_availability_of_preliminary_electronic_versions_of_taxonomic_papers_in_need_of_a_clear_definition
 >
 > In this paper, we
 proposed the creation of a 'label' for journals
 taking
 > the engagement to publish online
 only one version of each paper, with its
 > final date, issue number and
 pagination.
 >
 >
 Colleagues, editors and publishers interested in this
 proposal of label
 > are welcome to
 contact us at <zoonomina at gmail.com>.
 >
 > Best wishes,
 >
 > Alain Dubois
 >
 >
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