[Taxacom] Revision using taxonomic concept approach

Stephen Thorpe stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Thu Oct 22 19:00:51 CDT 2015

I think "sensu" and "sec" (in the sense that Nico is using it) might be different. The former implies that the sense of the name isn't the original sense (similar to "auct.", but with a single specified publication, wheras "auct." has no such specification attached), i.e. that it is misidentified, or at least changed in some drastic way. The latter just implies however a subsequent author uses the name, in line with the original or not. However, the terminologies do not seem to have well defined universal definitions.


On Fri, 23/10/15, Doug Yanega <dyanega at ucr.edu> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Revision using taxonomic concept approach
 To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
 Received: Friday, 23 October, 2015, 12:41 PM
 At the risk of getting
 involved in something drawn-out, if I understand 
 it correctly (which I might not), Nico's
 approach cites the concepts 
 being discussed
 as if they are independent citations (completely 
 different from authorships), and the example
 Stephen picked just 
 happened to have these
 concept citations all identical. That is 
 "Minyomerus sec. O’Brien & Wibmer
 (1982)" might not be the same as 
 "Minyomerus sec. Anderson (2002)",
 and certainly NEITHER of these is 
 the actual author of the genus Minyomerus, who happens to be
 Horn, 1876. I think it basically replaces
 what - for older authors 
 attempting to
 discuss things like this - might have been traditionally 
 written as "Minyomerus /sensu/ O’Brien
 & Wibmer (1982)". If that's 
 really all it's intended to do, then I
 think I still prefer "sensu", 
 since it's familiar.
 I think for most of us who are used to only
 seeing author names listed 
 after scientific
 names, this is where the mental challenge lies in 
 trying to read this sort of text. I'm
 pretty sure I get the idea, but 
 when I read
 it, my brain keeps connecting those names as if they were
 authors, when they are not. That takes a
 lot of getting used to.
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