[Taxacom] multiple authors new species

John Bain John.Bain at scionresearch.com
Mon Oct 10 00:19:24 CDT 2016


Exactly. Good point Mary.
John Bain.


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From: Mary Barkworth
Date:10/10/2016 4:18 PM (GMT+12:00)
To: Stephen Thorpe ,taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu,bayshark at exemail.com.au
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] multiple authors new species

It is also reasonable for the authorship of the name to be restricted to those who provide the description and decide its position and rank. It may or not be a group decision.
Mary

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Multiple authorship is getting ridiculous in some cases. Just "et al" them all out (apart from the first) for being such @#$%wits on a citation grab! At any rate, it doesn't matter one bit how you cite a reference if it has an identifier (like a doi). That's the whole point of an identifier, i.e. so citation variants can be linked to the same reference.

Stephen

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I have a feeling that if you use paper with multiple authors  for reference,  is the best to cite all authors.
If you use just for an identification label , use "etal"
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Better a punctuation error than substituting with the  'trendy' ... & al.

Paul
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> Many thanks to everyone 'et. al.' for the feedback.
>
> John Grehan
>
>

John,

It seems no-one has pointed out the punctuation error -  there is no '.'
after 'et', only after 'al'. Et is not an abbreviation,  unlike 'al', so does  not need a '.' after it.

The correct citation for the species should be Thitarodes  biruensis (Fu et  al., 2002).

By the way, I see this is a Chinese Hepialid. I remember  last time I was in  the BMNH in 2006(temporarily in Wandsworth at the time) I  was talking to my  old friend Gaden Robinson (RIP) and he was complaining about  the new  Hepialid volume of Fauna Sinica that had just arrived. It  was full of  synonyms and taxonomic issues, and he was really frustrated  having just  finished a revision of the family. He said "If I had any  hair left I would  be pulling it out right now".

Adam.

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