[Taxacom] Article 8 compliance

igor pavlinov ipvl2008 at mail.ru
Sat Apr 1 01:05:56 CDT 2017

Hi all,
  one of the issues concerning rather rigid ruling any nomenclatorial acts, which was not mentioned in the preceding discussion, because I think of its “inpolitcorrectness”, is a protection of the professional taxonomic science against diletantism.
  As matter of fact, while having studied the history of taxonomic nomenclature (and even published the whole book on this matter), I gained a clear impression that such kind of protection was among active drivers of the above rulings in the past. This explains, for instance, why appearance of new nomina in private letters and in lecture presentations was once forbidden in 19th century, as well as mandatory typification of new species, genus and family names became prescribed in 20th century.
  The same thing may happen now with the e-publications of nomenclatorial acts. If they will be allowed free, this would lead to a real mess, much due to the current “molecularization” of taxonomy which is now leading to active involvement of a lot of “molecularists”, having no biological education at all, into recognition of new taxa and coinage of new names (sorry for another “inpolitcorrectness”).
  So, with softening of the nomenclatorial rulings, the language of taxonomy will quickly turns into a kind of specific “pigeon English”.
  Shall we enjoy it, that’s the question. Cheers,


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Igor Ya. Pavlinov, DrS
Leading Researcher
Zoological Museum of Lomonosov Moscow State University
ul. Bol'shaya Nikitskaya 6
125009 Moscow 

>Суббота,  1 марта 2017, 1:28 +03:00 от "Richard Pyle" <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org>:
>Hi John,
>> I am just going to throw a bit of a spanner in the works. Since sending you my
>> reply I have been giving this a bit of thought. I have come to some surprising
>> conclusions (to me at least). Why do we need to register names at all? Why do
>> we need ZooBank?
>I guess that depends on what you mean by the word "need".  Why do we "need" nomenclature? Why do we "need" science?  Why do we "need" anything?  I know this may seem absurd, but the point I'm trying to make is that essentially everything boils down to cost/benefit analysis. So the real question you should ask is:
>Do the benefits of ZooBank exceed the costs?  And of course, by "costs" I mean much more than money (e.g., time, complexity, frustration, confusion, decreased efficiency, etc., etc.)
>It's an exceedingly complex question.
>> Personally I like to keep things as simple as possible and it seems to me that your
>> comments make it sound that things could get a whole lot more complicated. 
>Well, again -- by what metric are we defining "simple" vs. "complicated"?  Paper publication is "simple" in the sense that no fancy devices are required to read them, no computer programmers or code is necessary, etc.  But they're also "complicated" when you consider the chemistry of ink, production of paper, mechanisms for applying the ink to the paper, binding the thin sheets of wood together into bundles, physically transporting those bundles around the world, etc.
>By contrast, a PDF file is very "complicated" in the sense that the underlying binary data cannot be read directly by our own eyes (complicated computers required), the internet is extremely complicated to the vast majority of people.  On the other hand, as a user it is sure a lot simpler to crank up my computer, open a web browser, enter a few keystrokes and click on a link to be reading a taxonomic article... than it is for me to subscribe to a journal or get myself over to the nearest library where I can read the paper equivalent.
>So, again, you might consider this comparison absurd, but simply declare something to be "simple" vs. "complicated" ignores a WHOLE lot of context.
>> Of
>> course nobody knows yet what will be required for registration under your
>> system (maybe you can give us some ideas of what you personally have in
>> mind).  My serious worry is that the requirements to register each name would
>> be so complex and time consuming that it may end up being a serious
>> impediment to the registration process itself. 
>I definitely agree with and sympathize with your concern!  But consider it this way:
>It would take about 2-5 minutes to cut and paste the information necessary to complete a robust ZooBank registration (I'll use the term "robust ZooBank registration" to refer to a future ZooBank where all information necessary to confer nomenclatural availability is included, and the registration itself represents the Code-compliant act, independent of any published work).  This would be for a "one off" registration.  It would take the same 2-5 minutes to bulk upload a simple spreadsheet file with a dozen or 100 or 1000 new names at the same time. The information included in the "robust registry" would simply be those elements required by the Code to confer nomenclatural availability (the name itself, a type designation, a description or definition that states in words characters that are purported to differentiate the taxon, etc.).
>So we're adding 2-5 minutes to the existing process for establishing a new species, which includes:
>- days in the field collecting the specimens
>- minutes or hours in the lab examining the specimens
>- minutes or hours reviewing literature to confirm the thing is new and doesn't have a name
>- minutes or hours in the lab gathering all the characters needed for a good taxonomic description
>- minutes or hours drafting the manuscript
>- minutes or hours submitting the manuscript to a journal
>- minutes or hours addressing the reviewers' comments
>In the grand scheme of things, 2-5 extra minutes for a new name (or 2-5 minutes for a set of hundreds of names) is pretty trivial overhead in terms of "cost" (money, time, complexity, frustration, confusion, decreased efficiency, etc., etc.) compared to the cost of the overall process of discovering and describing a new species.
>Of course, this isn't the only "cost" to the system I advocate.  Another cost is a legitimate fear that people might abuse the system to register hundreds or thousands of new names.  This is a bit of a red herring, because while true, it's equally true (and always has been) of the current system.  Yes, the current system has been abused in certain specific cases; but there is no reason to think this rate of abuse would increase with the system I propose. In fact, quite the opposite -- by having a single conduit through which ALL new names are established (as opposed to thousands of journals, etc.), we have MUCH better control over how the process works, and we can implement new rules at ANY time in response to the community demands (not once every decade or so as we currently do). The ONLY way to implement any form of consistent peer review into the nomenclatural process would be through such a system; trying to apply some form of abstract rules to apply to every single publication venue and circumstances is effectively impossible.
>Another "cost" is that taxonomy will suffer because people will just register names without doing the taxonomy.  Again, this is equally true for the existing system -- nothing is stopping anyone from self-publishing minimally-compliant new names without any taxonomy at all.  It happens, but I see no reason to predict that it would happen more frequently or severely in the scenario I have advocated. Again, with a single conduit through which all of this happens, recognizing such abuse will be much, much easier, and implementing rules to mitigate it would likewise be massively simpler.
>People do taxonomy because they are scientists, and want to establish a good reputation as a good taxonomist.  That won't change, so the publication process will continue as it always has.  The prestige comes from publications, not from registrations in a database. Taxonomy will continue, and we'll no longer need to  suffer the extensive complexities and ambiguities we now have by forcing the legalistic acts of nomenclature through the highly diverse, ambiguous, and rapidly evolving publication process.
>So what are the benefits of separating nomenclatural availability from the traditional process of publication, in the form I have advocated?
>- Never need to wonder if a work was issued for the purpose of providing a public and permanent scientific record, and met all the other criteria for publication
>- ZERO confusion or ambiguity about when a name was established (for determining priority)
>- Public notification of all newly established names
>- Free/open access to all the core criteria necessary for establishing ALL new names (type designation, etc.)
>- Single resource for all new names
>- Much easier to implement new rules as the community demands them
>- Elimination of homonymy
>- Reduction of ambiguity in linking a name to a type
>- Elimination of new names that are unavailable on technical grounds
>- Elimination of the VAST majority of other nomenclatural headaches we still need to deal with
>- I could go on, but I hope the point is clear....
>> In turn this would (I think would
>> rather than might) result in parallel nomenclatures/taxonomies: one that
>> complies with the system of "registration = available" and another that basically
>> maintains the status quo. 
>Yes, this is a good point.  Indeed, it already exists (i.e., many names that ate technically not available via e-publication, but are used anyway).  So, we could go back to the old system (no electronic publication, no ZooBank), which I think would make matters much worse, and would ultimately result in no Code (i.e., nobody cares about Code compliance).  Or we can try to evolve the system to accommodate the changing nature of how information is disseminated among scientists.  There certainly are risks.  But as I said at the start, all the options have risks.  The tricky part is figuring out the real cost/benefit ratio of the various options.
>> I must say, as one who has produced and still hopes to
>> produce larger revisionary works (up to 380 new species in each) I would
>> absolutely baulk at sitting down to register that number of new names (name,
>> typification, primary type depository, basic diagnostic characters (surely those
>> will be a requirement), etc.). I doubt that any publisher I have in mind would do
>> this for me. I am not alone feeling this way.
>Well, two things:
>1) The robust system I envision would have very simple tools for bulk uploading content.  So, if (for example) you could create a spreadsheet with all those bits of information for each of the 380 names, it would require just a couple minutes of your time to upload the file and bulk register all the names at once.
>2) Publishers, of course, would be irrelevant
>And if the information you have on these 380 species is not easily assembled into a structured electronic document, then you're probably spending WAY too much time creating your manuscripts. 
>Let me ask you this:  how many minutes do you spend on each of those 380 species in formatting the treatment (name, heading, type, etc., etc.) in the word-processor file that you eventually send off to the publisher?
>> By far the simplest solution is to treat electronic publications the same as printed
>> publications without any requirement for registration. It could be quite a bold
>> step, but at a stroke we would lose the creation of new so called "orphan taxa".
>> It could be a requirement that only PDFs and PDF/As would be acceptable as
>> valid e-publications, but this could be reviewed, under discussion with
>> publishers, when the need arises if novel methods of acceptable electronic
>> publication appear. However, even with this simplicity some problems would
>> continue but they could be ironed out by discussion with publishers, i.e. date of
>> publication; pagination change in different versions of the same article, etc.
>All of this was considered at the time the Amendment for electronic publication was first drafted.  Believe it or not, I was one of the ONLY commissioners at the time who strongly advocated AGAINST the ZooBank requirement for the Amendment.  My basic premise was that ZooBank needed to evolve in response to community needs, so it could be developed in a way that would ultimately fulfill the functions I have envisioned.  However, now that it's tied to Code compliance of electronically published names, we're very constrained in expanding and evolving it, because it needs to maintain its active function in nomenclature. 
>> What about archiving electronic publications? I think at best the Code can only
>> recommend this. As it stands there is no guarantee that publishers archive their
>> e-publications even though it is a requirement that they name an archive when
>> registering an article on ZooBank. I would hope that most publishers do actually
>> archive their publications but it is difficult to prove this. Of course there is a
>> worry that some e-published articles will be lost if they are not archived. I think
>> this would be a very, very rare occurrence and would have very little effect on
>> taxonomy as a whole. In almost every case there will be a copy maintained
>> somewhere. If an article can be shown to be lost might it be possible for the
>> ICZN to make a ruling that all included nomenclatural acts are deemed
>> unavailable? After all, we already have to do something along these lines if we
>> want to designate a neotype (but without involving the ICZN). I suspect that in
>> such a case the taxonomy included in the article would have been eminently
>> forgettable in any case, that being the reason it is eventually lost.
>I agree these are all very real problems, and THESE are the sorts of issues we should be discussing when crafting the 5th Edition. 
>Of course, almost all of these problems disappear entirely if we separate the legalistic process of making names available from the scientific process of taxonomy through publication.
>> OK, we could still include a recommendation that all new names are registered
>> on ZooBank. I think most taxonomists would be happy to do this on a voluntary
>> basis so long as the requirements are kept to the bare minimum.  Personally I do
>> not see much difference between the "registration = available" model and a
>> requirement that all taxonomic articles must published only in specified journals
>> (this suggestion was overwhelmingly thrown out by the botanists and is not
>> popular amongst zoologists). I think that either system could be seen as
>> "western taxonomic imperialism".
>No, they're VERY different propositions.  A proposal to keep nomenclature+taxonomy embedded together within a publication, and then impose restrictions on that publication, you are VERY MUCH impinging on scientific freedom.  THAT is why people reject -- they don't want such restrictions placed on their SCIENCE.  By contrast, what I've been advocating separates these things, and keeps the Code-governed stuff in one clean place, without any impact whatsoever on the scientific process.
>It almost seems as though you are suggesting that Code compliance for nomenclature is part of the science.  This is no more true than the act of depositing a gene sequence in GenBank is itself science. Nomenclature is a tool that supports science, and the Code exists to keep that tool consistent and stable.
>> If e-publications are accepted without the impediment of registration the it
>> could get very much cheaper and quicker to publish taxonomy. 
>How so?
>> If
>> taxonomists/publishers were given the option of archiving their work(s) on
>> ZooBank and making them freely available (i.e. open access) then that would be
>> a real bonus. Some of the most productive taxonomists at the moment are
>> retired and find it difficult to obtain funds to pay for publishing. However they
>> can easily self-publish and in making their publications open access their works
>> would become much more widely and easily available than under the current
>> system. For those whose careers depend on publishing in higher ranking
>> journals nothing needs to change from the system that we currently have. I
>> really believe that if this were to be followed the rate of publication in taxonomy
>> would dramatically increase because it would become faster, easier and
>> cheaper. 
>You've just done a SPLENDID job of making my case for me!   :-)
>> Just some thoughts, but I think some of the above points need to be aired.
>I think this is excellent, and exactly the kind of discussion we need.  It's clear from many of the points you have raised that I have not succeeded in clearly articulating what I'm actually advocating.  Perhaps this post will help. Or, perhaps it will only confuse matters more.  But in any case, I'm very grateful you took the time to articulate your views in detail.
>With apologies to all the other subscribers to this list who aren't as interested in this topic as John and I are.
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