[Taxacom] Literature request

Vinícius Antonio de Oliveira Dittrich vinarc at gmail.com
Thu Aug 31 18:09:28 CDT 2017


   Dear Michael,

   I think your point of view is not wrong, but is not right also. To me,
steal intellectual property of others is to publish anything that is not
mine, but I just put my name there as the author. Copying anything else for
personal use is not steal (the definition of piracy) – BTW, I wish all my
papers and books and everything else could be copied by any person, without
any cost: science is not something to profit, just as education is not… but
many will disagree, for obvious reasons. Regarding specimens carried out
from Brazil, for many and many years this was the rule, and if we want to
see those specimens, we have to travel a lot and spend too much money for
this, because those specimens will never return to Brazil. So, your
reasoning seems to be: steal part of the biodiversity is OK, but copying a
chapter of a book no. Or maybe I've not understood what you wrote.

   Best regard,

   Vinícius

2017-08-31 19:30 GMT-03:00 Michael A. Ivie <mivie at montana.edu>:

> I note your irony Geoff,
>
> It always amazes me when people are so cavalier about simple theft. I want
> it, I don't want to pay for it, he has it, I will steal it.  Poor me. No
> moral compunction at all.
>
> Particularly when a country is so fanatical about anyone stealing their
> biodiversity specimens, but are completely OK with their scientists
> stealing intellectual property of others.  Brazil is an example, tons of
> stolen literature available there, but try taking a beetle out without
> "paying" for it,  that means jail!  Just an example, there are more
> countries like this than countries not like this.  Some you can steal both
> specimens and books.
>
> Grumpy Mike
>
>
>
> On 8/31/2017 4:06 PM, Geoff Read wrote:
>
>> Well it's a modernish book in print available from the publisher, or
>> secondhand for a small sum.
>>
>> You mean perhaps where can you get a pirated pdf?
>>
>> Try Google - a dodgy Russian site has it.
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>>
>> On Fri, September 1, 2017 3:42 am, Luis POPA wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Taxacomers,
>>> Does anyone know a place where I can find an electronic version of the
>>> book bellow? Actually I'm interested only in the chapter on random
>>> genetic drift (pages 88-98).
>>>
>>> Hartl, D.L. 2000. A Primer of Population Genetics (3rd ed.). Sinauer
>>> Associates, Sunderland, MA
>>>
>>> Thank you very much.
>>> Best regards,
>>> luis
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> General Director
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>>
>> --
>> Geoffrey B. Read, Ph.D.
>> Wellington, NEW ZEALAND
>> gread at actrix.gen.nz
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