[Taxacom] Help with Hycleus oculatus please
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Sat Oct 7 18:14:05 CDT 2017
Original description of Meloe oculatus Thunberg, 1791 see here:
If this helps.
Am 08.10.2017 um 00:27 schrieb Tony Rees:
> RE (1) above: according to Muller, S. and Rookmaaker, L.C: The South
> African Insects Described by Carl Peter Thunberg (1991:
> www.rhinoresourcecenter.com/pdf_files/117/1175858015.pdf) Thunberg's
> Mylabris oculata of 1821 was based on his own Meloe oculatus of 1791. So
> those two taxa would appear to be the same, also as Hycleus oculatus,
> however preferably you should get an expert to confirm this.
> Regards - Tony
> Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
> On 8 October 2017 at 07:06, Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Mary,
>> First a disclaimer: I am not a beetle specialist, however this is the
>> information I have been able to piece together regarding your query:
>> 1. Hycleus oculatus is cited with the authority (Thunberg, 1791), and
>> appears to be based on the species previously called Mylabris oculata
>> Thunberg, 1791. If you search Google Scholar for the latter name you will
>> find some references. It is also given as the "Cape Mounted Rifles bean
>> beetle" or "CMR beetle". You can also search for Hycleus oculatus in ION
>> which leads to the page http://www.organismnames.
>> com/details.htm?lsid=1481855 from which a search of Zoological Record is
>> available if you have access to that.
>> In Hallan's list there is a species listed as accepted named Mylabris
>> oculata (Thunberg, 1791) which seems to be based on Meloe oculata Thunberg,
>> 1791. At the moment I cannot tell whether or not this is the same as the
>> above taxon.
>> 2. Hycleus ocellata seems to be different, although this name does not
>> appear in either ION or GNI. It appears to be based on the name Cerocoma
>> ocellata Olivier, 1791 (data source is Joel Hallan's Biology Catalog
>> although the relevant page does not seem to be accessible at the moment).
>> C. ocellata was the basis for the genus Dices Dejean, 1821 but that
>> genus is listed in Fauna Europaea as a synonym of Hycleus.
>> Probably others can comment further,
>> Best regards - Tony
>> Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
>> On 8 October 2017 at 01:42, Mary Barkworth <Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu> wrote:
>>> Inaturalist has it as CMR Bean Beetle (Hycleus oculatus). There is a
>>> record of it from Botswana but I cannot find the author (desirable for
>>> Symbiota). Could someone tell me who it is please - using Zoological
>>> citation style please. Is it a synonym of Hycleus ocellata (Olivier, 1791)<
>>> https://www.gbif.org/species/6955485>? Or is that simply a fuzzy match?
>>> CoL does not include the genus even.
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