[Taxacom] Granatina

Tony Rees tonyrees49 at gmail.com
Wed Oct 25 17:20:21 CDT 2017

Hi Mary,

It looks like Granatina is a previously used name (originally attributed to
Bonaparte, 1850, but correctly to Sharpe, 1891) for taxa currently in
Uraeginthus, the latter being the senior name; all species are presently
listed in Uraeginthus in the present Catalogue of Life, which gets its bird
information from ITIS, relevant page here:
- which follows the 2012 version of Zoonomen. As noted earlier by Rod, Harrison
(1962) spotted the priority of Uraeginthus over Granatina and recommended
that the older name be used for all species of the genus.

Avibase accepts Uraeginthus for some of these, see
https://avibase.bsc-eoc.org/avibase.jsp?pg=search&qstr=Uraeginthus, but
uses Granatina for 2 species, U. granatinus (as G. granatina) and U.
ianthinogaster (as G. ianthinogaster). The reason for this is not stated
but it appears to follow a change for those two species only from *Uraeginthus
* to *Granatina *between Clements 5th edition (1999-2005) and 6th edition
(2006): in other words those treatments are implicitly recogizing Granatina
as a separate genus from Uraeginthus (previously it was sometimes employed
as a subgenus within Uraeginthus). With the limited searching at my
disposal, however, I have not been able to find a justification for such a

So you have a couple of courses of action - either ask the authors of the
Clements checklist and/or Avibase for their justification for promoting
Granatina to a separate genus, or follow ITIS and present CoL in using
Uraeginthus for all of the species involved.

In answer to your other question, it seems that Granatina (=
Uraeginthus) hawkeri
is presently considered a subspecies of Granatina (=Uraeginthus)
at least according to Avibase.

Hope this helps,

Best regards - Tony

Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia

On 26 October 2017 at 00:10, Mary Barkworth <Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu> wrote:

> It seems it comes down to “IF the two genera are to be combined”,
> Uraeginthus  has priority (see biostor link in Rod’s response). Avibase
> seems to accept it but not worldbirdnames.org.  Almost like working with
> botanists….
> Mary
> From: Roderic Page [mailto:Roderic.Page at glasgow.ac.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 6:58 AM
> To: Mary Barkworth <Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu>
> Cc: (Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu) <Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Granatina
> Hi Mary,
> From BHL and Nomenclature Zoologicus, the author is Sharp
> https://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/8328345 (slightly complicated
> history of the name).
> From BHL and Biostor, Harrison argued that Uraeginthus has priority
> Harrison CJO (1962) The relative priority of the generic names Uraeginthus
> and Granatina. Bulletin of The British Ornithologists' Club 82: 171-172.
> Retrieved from http://biostor.org/reference/113138
> I can’t help with whether the names are synonyms or not.
> Regards,
> Rod
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> On 25 Oct 2017, at 13:48, Mary Barkworth <Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu<mailto:
> Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu>> wrote:
> Granatina
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