[Taxacom] "A Few Bad Scientists Are Threatening to Topple Taxonomy": more political nonsense

Bevan Weir WeirB at landcareresearch.co.nz
Wed Sep 13 01:00:15 CDT 2017


I don’t know anything about Herpetology to comment on the taxonomy, but I do applaud Hoser for the most entertaining etymology notes I have ever read, e.g.: for BOIGA MICKPITMANI SP. NOV.

"A police-protected criminal and shrewd businessman, Steve Irwin cultivated a close relationship with corrupt government officials who acted as his paid thugs to repeatedly engage in illegal armed raids of Pitman’s home and business in order to shut him down."

And so on for another 20 paragraphs...
http://www.smuggled.com/issue-35-pages-33-42.pdf



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From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Thorpe
Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2017 8:46 a.m.
To: Raymond Hoser - The Snakeman
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Subject: Re: [Taxacom] "A Few Bad Scientists Are Threatening to Topple Taxonomy": more political nonsense

Hey Ray,

Why not try writing in a polite tone for once? You can basically make all the same points, but you won't alienate your audience so much. Such alienation is counterproductive to your goals.

Anyway, I would just like to agree with you in general about comment blogs. It is common for a blog author to act as comments moderator. Often, this results in them blocking any comments which disagree or criticise their stated view/opinion in any way, and only let through what they agree with. The only thing that we can do is to be aware of this problem, and recognise that blog comments may be highly biased, and that alternative view holders may have been blocked from commenting.

Stephen

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On Mon, 11/9/17, Raymond Hoser - The Snakeman <viper007 at live.com.au> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Taxacom] "A Few Bad Scientists Are Threatening to Topple Taxonomy": more political nonsense
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 Cc: "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
 Received: Monday, 11 September, 2017, 5:32 PM



 Dear all,

 I also seem to have been blocked from the thread as well.

 The latest "Hoser bashing" article is more toxic  that uninformed people may realise.
 There are stack of obvious factual defects, including  that claim that I, Hoser petitioned the ICZN in 2009 to  rename a genus of rattlesnake and was REFUSED.

 No such petition happened and so the claim MUST be false.

 The link "substantiating" the claim is to a Wuster  controlled webpage telling people not to use the Hoser genus  name Hoserea Hoser, 2009 and nothing more.

 It is the same circular self-citing crap that the Wuster  team have become quite expert at and using to peddle their  ISIS-like brand of lies and hatred.

 Thankfully Wuster is neither the ICZN or the majority of  herpetologists!

 As for his "majority view", lie, this is well  perpetuated by the author of the latest rant, by REFUSING to  speak with the less vocal majority or even the vocal ones in  the group, for some balance in all this.

 All we get are the same misleading quotes from Wuster,  Kaiser and the usual suspects.

 In terms of comments at the end of the (obviously NOT peer
 reviewed) blog piece, several people I know have tried to  post correcting comments on the blog and they have all been  stopped by the moderator, while rubbish comments are put  through.

 And finally, in terms of taxonomic vandalism, we need a  quick reality check.

 Myself (Hoser) has never tried to rename anything .... it is  all new taxa.

 Not one single piece of "taxonomic vandalism"!

 By contrast Wuster and his gang had at last count illegally  renamed no less than 41 species, genera and family (yes we  are talking known objective junior synonyms) of many authors  (not just I) and then improperly tried to get everyone else  to use the wrong
  names.
 As for alleged majority support, this seems to fade when  one looks at books, when pretty much all of them use the  correct (non Wuster gang) names.
 All the best
 Raymond Hoser







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