[Taxacom] Brazil specimen mailing

John Grehan calabar.john at gmail.com
Thu Aug 23 11:32:05 CDT 2018


Below some comments received from a colleague. As far as I can see it is
the usual case of a sledgehammer approach that creates problems rather than
solutions. Not the first time, nor the last. Anyone who has read the
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy will understand this all too well.

Some comments sent to me (blue):

The borders are not shut down. We are still receiving specimens and sending
them.



The problem is that they have passed a law that was mainly meant for
genetic research but currently also includes morphology work. Apparently
documents are impossible to get at present. If you want to use specimens
(even if it’s just one) from Brazil the lender will have to have their data
input onto SisGen (and they require a lot, even coordinates). And foreign
researchers will have to be associated with an institution.



Also, their problem is that they seem to also want us all to input this
sort of data for published papers since at least 2015? Or earlier? I’m not
sure yet...



Yes, since 2015.



Your Brazilian colleagues should have answers as soon as they know what to
do, I’m sure.



One institutional researcher in Braxil had to get a permit from an
environmental agency to retrieve a parcel sent from overseas with
non-Brazilian material. They opened the parcel, counted every specimen… and
now the researcher will pay a tax for importing goods. This parcel has been
held up since April.



We also think the people worst affected will be ecologists and
microbiologists... if they are required to input all their specimens into
SisGen I’m sure it will take as long or longer than their actual project...



Everyone...



Fernando says that, as it stands, pressure from our international
colleagues will most definitely help reducing this upcoming bureaucracy!



Who is going to do that? For example, if the Smithsonian signs the TTM with
any Brazilian institutions, the Smithsonian will be responsible for any use
of any insect that was not in compliance with the Brazilian laws. Will the
Smithsonian sign for this obligation?


One Brazilian institution found that they could not return overseas
material and had to write a letter explaining to overseas partners that
their post office had to return the parcel in compliance with the new
regulations. This institution anticipates further difficulties in obtaining
new loans because institutions abroad will be afraid of not having the
material returned, at least within the deadlines agreed upon. It was
concluded that the government only ends up making scientific work difficult.

I am not familiar with Brazilian science, but it seems strange that
Brazilian institutions were not involved in forming the legislation to
avoid these problems and apparent chaos. Anyway it looks like it will be
effectively impossible to send specimens to colleagues in Brazil for the
foreseeable future (and this reminds me to warn another colleague who was
about to do that).




On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 7:08 AM, John Noyes <j.noyes at nhm.ac.uk> wrote:

> I wonder if the Brazilian poilticians have to complete all this
> bureaucracy when they travel abroad. After all they are exporting genetic
> heritage material - themselves. Just a thought.
>
> John
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of
> Paloma Shimabukuro
> Sent: 21 August 2018 19:02
> To: joana cristóvão
> Cc: taxacom
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Brazil specimen mailing
>
> Dear all,
>
> Here are some information extracted from the Brazilian Society of Tropical
> Medicine:
>
> "The procedures for registration, finished product notification, sample
> shipment form and others provided by law, shall be carried out in the
> Brazilian National System of Management of Genetic Heritage and Associated
> Traditional Knowledge (SisGen) on the website:
> https://sisgen.gov.br/paginas/login.aspx
>
> Among the resolutions adopted by the sectoral Chamber (in March 2018), is,
> for example, resolution No. 05, which will establish a single term between
> the Brazilian and the foreign institution, with a shelf life of up to 10
> years (and no more only 5 years), which include all shipments for the same
> recipient. This new resolution revoked Resolution No. 01 on the previous
> Material Transfer Agreement (TTM).
>
> The resolution No. 10, June 19, researchers from the Phylogeny, taxonomy,
> systematics, ecology, biogeography and epidemiology fields, may register
> their researches using a simple form, which will be available in the next
> version of SisGen. The researcher will be able whether to indicate the
> registration numbers, single indicators of default Resource Locator (URL)
> or equivalent in which are found this information in databases, information
> systems or open access repositories to the Brazilian State.
>
> Resolution nº 6, from March 20, which establishes the minimum taxonomic
> level required to identify each group of organisms in the case of
> biodiversity research in taxonomy and phylogeny, as follows: I – domain
> (Archaea, Bacteria and Eukarya) case of microscopic bacteria, fungi, and
> other microorganisms, with the exception of viruses; II-class, in the case
> of macroscopic algae; III-order, in the case of macroscopic fungi and
> animals; and IV-Family, in the case of viruses and plants. That is, the
> researcher who studies macroscopic fungi or insects may only indicate the
> order of these organisms, without the need to indicate the species of each
> sample. So, you will have the opportunity to make only one record for a
> given order instead of 1000 records of different copies of the same order."
>
> I hope it helps clarify the current situation.
>
> Best, Paloma
>
>    --
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>
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 1:52 PM, joana cristóvão <
> suthora_webbiana at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Im currently doing my PhD in Brazil (Mato Grosso) with Dr Fernando Vaz de
> > Mello and we have definitely heard of this....
> >
> > The borders are not shut down. We are still receiving specimens and
> > sending them.
> > The problem is that they have passed a law that was mainly meant for
> > genetic research but currently also includes morphology work.
> >
> > This is still very new for everyone but it seems it will include a lot of
> > bureaucracy. If you want to use specimens (even if it’s just the one)
> from
> > Brazil they will have to have their data input onto SisGen (and they
> > require a lot of it, even coordinates).
> >
> > It seems like if you look at a specimen you are accessing it’s Brazilian
> > genetic heritage.
> >
> > It will make any sort of work that includes morphology very bureaucratic
> > especially for Brazilian colleagues. However, they are still fixing some
> > problems on the platform and, as far as I know, we haven’t had to start
> > with this yet.
> >
> > Also, their problem is that they seem to also  want us all to input this
> > sort of data for published papers since at least 2015? Or earlier? I’m
> not
> > sure yet...
> >
> > Your Brazilian colleagues should have answers as soon as they know what
> to
> > do, I’m sure.
> >
> > We also think the people worst affected will be ecologists and
> > microbiologists... if they are required to input all their specimens into
> > SisGen I’m sure it will take as long or longer than their actual
> project...
> >
> > Fernando says that, as it stands, pressure from our international
> > colleagues will most definitely help reducing this upcoming bureaucracy!
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Fernando and Joana
> >
> >
> > http://www.mma.gov.br/patrimonio-genetico/conselho-
> > de-gestao-do-patrimonio-genetico/nrmas-do-cgen#resolu%C3%A7%C3%B5es
> >
> >
> > On 21 Aug 2018, at 11:15, John Grehan <calabar.john at gmail.com<mailto:
> > calabar.john at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I recently heard from a colleague in Brazil that the country has
> > effectively been turned into an island due to new legislation that
> prevents
> > receive anything from other countries or to send/send back material
> > overseas. The borders are now totally closed. Has anyone on TAXACOM heard
> > about this? It would seem to be the death knell for international work.
> The
> > wall setup against sending specimens into the country is even more
> > draconian.
> >
> > John Grehan
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