[Taxacom] New genus name in title

Stephen Thorpe stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Thu Jan 25 19:20:13 CST 2018


"Why do you think it is unlikely, Stephen?"
Well, I was thinking about species. However, 

Art. 8.1.1. it must be issued for the purpose of providing a public and permanent scientific record

One could get some leverage out of this for present purposes. "For purposes of advertisement" is not the purpose of providing a public and permanent scientific record.

At any rate, the Code is not "an exact science", and it would be silly to take too pedantic a view on some things that are actually unclear in the Code anyway, so one has to be pragmatic. Some nomenclatural problems are relatively major*, while others can be safely ignored.

* For example, this mess: Oparara Leschen & Lord, 2017 is a junior homonym of Oparara Forster & Wilton, 1973, or at least in would be if it were an available name, but no type depository was either stated or implied for the type and only originally included nominal species Oparara marskeae Leschen & Lord, 2017, which makes the latter an unavailable name, strictly speaking. Therefore, the genus lacks an (available) type species, so may itself be unavailable?

Stephen

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On Fri, 26/1/18, Francisco Welter-Schultes <fwelter at gwdg.de> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New genus name in title
 To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
 Received: Friday, 26 January, 2018, 1:42 PM
 
 
 The Code has
 this recommendation:
 "Recommendation
 9A. Authors to avoid unintentional publication in 
 abstracts.
 Authors should not
 include names and acts affecting zoological 
 nomenclature in abstracts of papers or posters
 to be presented at 
 meetings. (For
 disclaimer of abstracts volumes, see Recommendation
 8G.)"
 
 Abstracts of
 papers can be published prior to the main paper, for 
 example for purposes of advertisement, this
 depends on the journal. The 
 same may apply
 to titles of papers in journal volumes.
 Abstracts can be issued electronically by
 paper-based journals before 
 the articles
 are printed. These abstracts can be downloaded and printed
 
 by others who just copy the information.
 Authors could even include the 
 information
 in their own works and publish quickly. Intentionally or 
 unintentionally.
 
 The 4th Code edition has some regulations for
 new names published after 
 1999 that should
 prevent such mistakes, at least for species, because 
 more information than previously needed must be
 attached to the new 
 name. However
 unintentional establishment of a name is still possible in
 
 an abstract, in a bad case even in a
 title.
 Mentioning a new genus name, one
 included species, "gen. nov." and a 
 short description ("the only known mammal
 with three legs") can suffice. 
 In the
 case of a new replacement name even less. Abstracts of
 papers 
 provide enough space to establish
 validly names of genera and families. 
 Why
 do you think it is unlikely, Stephen?
 
 Francisco
 
 Am
 25.01.2018 um 22:43 schrieb Stephen Thorpe:
 > It is extremely unlikely (under the
 current Code) that enough information would be put in an
 abstract to make a name available from the abstract, and
 I'm not sure that abstracting services publish abstracts
 before the article is published? At any rate, the waters of
 publication dates are already well muddied in the brave new
 world of electronic publication, for quite different reasons
 (I've seen some pretty odd things happen on ZooBank,
 relating to preregistration!)
 > 
 > Stephen
 > 
 >
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 > On Fri, 26/1/18, Wolfgang Wuster <w.wuster at bangor.ac.uk>
 wrote:
 > 
 >  
 Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New genus name in title
 >   To: "Peter Uetz" <peter at uetz.us>,
 "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu"
 <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
 >   Received: Friday, 26 January, 2018,
 10:35 AM
 >   
 >  
 From dim memory, there were
 >  
 concerns, at least in the past, about the use of names in
 >   titles and abstracts resulting in them
 being published by
 >   abstracting
 services before the publication of the
 >   "official", intentional
 description, muddying the
 >   waters as
 to publication date etc.
 >   
 >   
 >   These concerns
 may predate the
 >   4th edition (which
 contains additional safeguards against
 >   inadvertent publication of a name) -
 not sure. Perhaps
 >   someone else can
 advise?
 >   
 >   
 >   Cheers,
 >   
 >   
 >   Wolfgang
 >   
 >   
 >   --
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 Lecturer
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 Sciences
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 ________________________________
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 From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
 >   on behalf of Peter Uetz <peter at uetz.us>
 >   Sent: 25 January 2018 21:16
 >   To:
 >   taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
 >   Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New genus name
 in
 >   title
 >   
 >   
 >   After having
 looked at 10,000 descriptions of
 >  
 reptiles (literally!) I find it rather annoying that a
 lot
 >   of authors no not mention the
 name of the new species (or
 >   genus),
 neither in the title nor the abstract of their
 >   papers. How do we know what they are
 talking about if they
 >   don’t say
 it?
 >   
 >  
 Journal
 >   editors and reviewers should
 be a bit stricter with this
 >   kind of
 stuff and make it mandatory that new names are
 >   actually mentioned in the title or at
 least the abstract.
 >   
 >   http://www.mapress.com/j/zt/article/viewFile/zootaxa.4375.2.5/13578
 >   
 >   
 >   
 >   >
 >  
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 >   >
 >   > Date:
 Wed, 24 Jan
 >   2018 14:37:01 -0500
 >   > From: John Grehan
 >   <calabar.john at gmail.com>
 >   > To: taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
 >   > Subject: [Taxacom] New genus name
 in
 >   title
 >  
 >
 >   > This is a
 >   bit of an ignorant question, but did
 not find an answer in
 >   the
 >   > code of zoological nomenclature
 >   (not to say that it is not there, just
 that
 >   > I have not seen it). I
 would be interested
 >   to know what the
 code says about
 >   > a new
 >   genus being mentioned in the title of a
 paper before it is
 >   actually
 >   > described and diagnosed within
 >   the paper. Is it permissible by the
 code?
 >   >
 >  
 > Many thanks,
 >   >
 >   > John Grehan
 > 
  
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