[Taxacom] Phasmida vs Phasmatodea

Dilrukshan Wijesinghe dpwijesinghe at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 19 08:51:39 CDT 2019


'Phasmida' is used in the online database of taxa in this group (phasmida.speciesfile.org/Common/basic/Taxa.aspx?TaxonNameID=1199226), if that is a deciding factor. :)

Priyantha

D. P. Wijesinghe
dpwijesinghe at yahoo.com 

    On Monday, August 19, 2019, 7:05:16 AM EDT, Francisco Welter-Schultes via Taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:  
 
 Dear Soowon Cho,
As Tony said, the ICZN Code does not regulate the correct spelling of 
names above the family-group. You can use either Phasmida or 
Phasmatodea. Both names are equally correct.
It is not possible to say that one name is incorrectly formed and the 
other name correctly, because there are no rules how such names must be 
formed.

Best regards
Francisco Welter-Schultes


Am 19.08.2019 um 11:01 schrieb Tony Rees via Taxacom:
> I have no independent opinion on this, but defer to the treatment given in
> Zhang et al., 2011:
> 
> Paul D. Brock & Judith Marshall, 2011. “Order Phasmida Leach. 1815. In:
> Zhang, Z.-Q. (Ed.) Animal biodiversity: An outline of higherlevel
> classification and survey of taxonomic richness”
> 
> quote: "Phasmida or Phasmatodea? The Code of the International Commission
> of Zoological Nomenclature has no rules for the construction of names of
> Orders, only for the names of family-groups, and genus- and species-level
> names. This may result in several names being in use for the same order,
> the name selected by any author being largely a matter of choice and
> therefore subject to some discussion or even prolonged argument. The names
> currently in use for the order of stick and leaf insects, or walking
> sticks, include Phasmida, Phasmatodea, Phasmatoptera and Cheleutoptera.
> Phasmida is the oldest and simplest name, first used by Leach in 1815 in
> ‘Brewster’s Edinburgh Encyclopaedia’ volume 9, p.119, and widely used in
> major entomological textbooks, dictionaries and many scientific papers and
> books on phasmids. As there is no compulsion to select the ‘grammatically
> correct’ name [which some argue is Phasmatodea Jacobson & Bianchi, 1902],
> selection of a long established (and simple) name is reasonable, although
> the probability of persuading all colleagues to agree on the use of
> Phasmida is unlikely."
> 
> Regards - Tony
> 
> Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
> https://about.me/TonyRees
> 
> 
> On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 at 18:55, Soowon Cho via Taxacom <
> taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Dear members,
>>
>> Could someone please explain which is right and why?
>>
>> At the Wikipedia site for "Phasmatodea", it states that Phasmida is
>> preferred by many authors, though it is incorrectly formed; Phasmatodea is
>> correctly formed, and is widely accepted.
>>
>> On the other hand, at the phasmida.speciesfile.org site, it states that
>> Phasmida is the oldest and simplest name, widely used in the literature and
>> close to the commonly used name of ‘phasmids’, and considered Phasmatodea a
>> junior synonym.
>>
>> Which is right? Why is Phasmida considered, by some researchers, wrongly
>> formed under the ICZN? Is there a mandatory naming rule for taxonomic rank
>> above superfamily?
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> --
>> Soowon Cho
>> chosoowon at gmail.com
>> Dept Plant Medicine
>> Chungbuk Nat'l Univ
>> Cheongju, 361-763
>> KOREA
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