[Taxacom] Forcing ORCID on researchers

Wouter Addink wouter.addink at naturalis.nl
Mon Dec 7 07:06:28 CST 2020


Not sure where this is coming from but you seem to not like having an orcid
id? Nobody is forcing you to have one. Same as nobody is forcing you to be
a researcher or to publish in zootaxa or use any tools or funders that
require them. If you don't like zootaxa because it uses orcid then don't
use it. But it should not be a matter of liking VS not liking but rather
costs/time VS benefits.

In case you have any interest in knowing the benefits of orcid ids, I am
happy to repeat them here:

The nice thing about orcid ids is that you are in full control over it, and
it even does not cost you money. You better give information about you
yourself than have someone else do it for you and you decide what
information to expose to whom. It also helps in getting personal or
institutional acknowledgement for publications for who need that for their
careers or funding.

Orcid is community driven so if you not like some aspects of it you can
change it when you are part of the community. It is made by researchers for
researchers, not something invented by a government or funder or commerce.
This is important because having multiple id systems for the same thing
defeat the purpose, but if using only one then the research community needs
to be in full control over it.

Kind regards,
Wouter




Op ma 7 dec. 2020 12:59 schreef Carlos Alberto Martínez Muñoz via Taxacom <
taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>:

> Hi Rod,
> There have been many irregularities in expanding ORCID and getting it
> adopted. Some have been discussed here, some I have seen myself. I have no
> time to discuss them all here. In the spotlight, there is this paragraph by
> Wouter Addink, which was really deplorable and which, at least for me,
> closed ORCID as an option:
> "*I am also amazed to see though, that there are still many authors not
> using their ORCID iD in OA publications or maintain their ORCID iD without
> any public information about their publications. I think there might even
> still be researchers who do not have an ORCID iD, although I don't know
> any.*" Well, Wouter, hello there!
> Down to the core, Rod: This is a matter of personal freedom. Whoever forces
> an ID on researchers misses that. And whoever forces ONE ID above all
> others misses that two times. There is more in this world than the narrow
> field of biodiversity informatics.
> Cheers,
>
> Carlos A. Martínez Muñoz
> Zoological Museum, Biodiversity Unit
> FI-20014 University of Turku
> Finland
> Myriatrix <http://myriatrix.myspecies.info/>
> ResearchGate profile
> <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Carlos_Martinez-Munoz>
> Myriapod Morphology and Evolution
> <https://www.facebook.com/groups/205802113162102/>
>
>
>
>
> El lun, 7 dic 2020 a las 13:41, Roderic Page (<Roderic.Page at glasgow.ac.uk
> >)
> escribió:
>
> > Hi Carlos,
> >
> > I’m curious as to why you object to getting an ORCID? Is it an objection
> > to identifier sin general, or ORCID in particular?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rod
> >
> >
> > On 7 Dec 2020, at 11:36, Carlos Alberto Martínez Muñoz via Taxacom <
> > taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Taxacomers,
> > I have been informed today by a co-author that Zootaxa has decided to be
> > strict and to enforce ORCID for all authors.
> > For all you journal editors and owners in this list: You are not welcome
> to
> > force an identifier on researchers, and even less to force ONE identifier
> > above all others, without alternatives. Also, it is useless. You might
> > force researchers to have an ID at the time of publication, but you
> cannot
> > force researchers to keep it. I will make sure that my ORCID gets wiped
> off
> > after publication. And every time you force me to get one, the same will
> > happen again. As the platform says, getting an ORCID just takes a minute.
> > Anthony Gill previously wrote: "My take is ORCID can take a flying jump
> at
> > itself." Couldn't agree more.
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Carlos A. Martínez Muñoz
> > Zoological Museum, Biodiversity Unit
> > FI-20014 University of Turku
> > Finland
> > Myriatrix <http://myriatrix.myspecies.info/>
> > ResearchGate profile
> > <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Carlos_Martinez-Munoz>
> > Myriapod Morphology and Evolution
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