[Taxacom] Forcing ORCID on researchers

John Grehan calabar.john at gmail.com
Sun Dec 13 18:07:50 CST 2020


Just privately off list - you had me laughing and laughing. But seriously,
I will be interested to see what he says. Cheers, John

On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 6:52 PM Carlos Alberto Martínez Muñoz via Taxacom <
taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:

> Dear Andy,
> As you addressed me directly, I will address you directly as well.
>
> "Poppycock." "It's FUD."
> I can also use pejorative nouns and unexplained abbreviations in my mother
> tongue. Just ask for them. It will be my pleasure.
>
> "Your comment is based on a fundamental misunderstanding of how ORCID is
> constituted."
> You seem to know better than anyone else. Please, enlighten us about how
> ORCID is constituted today and how that prevents what it might become in
> the future. Because it is clear that corporate reorganization has been
> foreseen.
>
> "Furthermore, the data - and especially the identifiers - are open-data, so
> if someone did try that, anyone could fork a free alternative."
> The whole thing is about generating unique identifiers, not exactly about
> having or not access to a file of existing identifiers.
>
> "anyone could fork a free alternative."
> You are "anyone". And either your claim is a far-flung pig or you can
> really fork and make a copy of the software to work effortlessly and
> inexpensively. If you can match your claim, then there is no need to wait
> for what might happen with ORCID in the future. Please, land that flying
> pig and make BaconIDs for all of us who want free alternatives. But you
> can't, isn't it? Because this is not about having a unique identifier, this
> is about having THE ONE unique identifier. This is about branding, which is
> what ORCID is right now, a brand.
> Nevertheless, you are welcome to prove me wrong. Give me a BaconID and I
> will use it for my next manuscript submission. The journals will accept it
> as equivalent to ORCID, right? What? No? So, are you telling me that if THE
> ONE unique identifier indeed becomes paywalled, there will be a lag time
> and implementation problems of alternatives? Are you telling me that if THE
> ONE unique identifier indeed becomes paywalled, that will allow a
> corporation without competitors to make unfair profits? Forceful adoption
> needs to go AND alternative identifiers need to exist and be in use to
> prevent unpleasant situations in the future.
> One order of BaconID, please.
> Cheers,
>
> Carlos A. Martínez Muñoz
> Zoological Museum, Biodiversity Unit
> FI-20014 University of Turku
> Finland
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