[Taxacom] UNESCO Open Science Recommendation

Wouter Addink wouter.addink at naturalis.nl
Sat Mar 7 15:43:40 CST 2020


Interesting comments. I agree, paying over $500 per OA page of a paper
benefits nobody except the publisher. That is not a problem with OA, it is
a problem with the publishers monopoly. I see too logical options,
Either institutes/universities (or funders) unite and bargain reasonable
prices (the journals provide a service, it does not have to be totally
free) or we publish entirely without journals but with some measurements to
sustain societies.


Op za 7 mrt. 2020 20:31 schreef Nick Grishin via Taxacom <
taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>:

> > OA will prevail.
>
> Yes it will. Indeed, science benefits best from open and free
> communication.
>
> But the way OA is implemented today is unreasonable. Paying over $500 per
> OA page of a paper benefits nobody except the publisher.
>
> The amount a journal charges depends on how the journal feels about its
> standing in the field. Starting OA journals charge less. More prestigious
> journals charge more. I love Pensoft, they do great job on electronic
> publishing. But when Zookeys was launched, the charge was about $20 per
> page, which was somewhat reasonable. And now, it is about $800 per paper.
> Which for an 8-page paper (usually enough to make your point) translates
> to $100 per page: a 5-fold increase from the past.
>
> Why do most taxonomists publish in Zootaxa these days? Because it is a
> decent journal that is free to publish in. And more, optional OA is $20
> per page.
>
>
> One solution is to eliminate journals, because publishing today does not
> need printing, and each paper can and should stand on its own, not as a
> segment of a journal. On-line platform that publishes papers, not journals
> (similar to bioRvix, or like Zookeys for everyone, so many people publish
> in Zookeys these days) seems to be best for science and open
> communication, and it will be the most economical solution to OA (it
> cannot cost more than $20 per archived page, probably less). Yes, as
> someone pointed out, this no-journal system hurts societies. But I think
> it benefits science overall by providing enormous savings, part of which
> can be directed towards societies.
>
> The agencies that require OA should provide support for such publishing on
> top of research funding they assign to a researcher, not from it, and do
> it in a way that decreases the total effective funds spent on publishing
> today, not increases it further. n
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