[Taxacom] [EXT] Re: Please-can anyone send me publication information for these two names?

Tony Rees tonyrees49 at gmail.com
Wed Mar 18 13:07:13 CDT 2020


I should point out that the authorship and years I gave are those in Wilson
& Reeder, Mammal Species of the World ed. 3, and seem to be used as
standard. (Whether or not they are correct is a different matter, and is
the question Francisco was referring to.)

- Tony


On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 04:53, Mary Barkworth <Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu> wrote:

> That helps a lot. Thank you.
>
>
>
> *From:* Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:49 AM
> *To:* Mary Barkworth <Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu>
> *Cc:* Kenneth Kinman <kinman at hotmail.com>; (Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu) <
> Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [Taxacom] [EXT] Re: Please-can anyone send me publication
> information for these two names?
>
>
>
> Hi Mary,
>
>
>
> In zoology (as opposed to botany) there is no requirement for a
> combination to be previously published to use it - anyone can recombine a
> specific epithet with a different genus if they have a reason to do so, the
> original authorship remains, it is just cited in parentheses to show that
> the genus has been changed (also a rank change of itself does not generate
> a change of authorship). Thus:
>
>
>
> Canis mesomelas Schreber, 1775
>
> Canis schmidti Noack, 1897
>
> or:
> Canis mesomelas schmidti Noack, 1897
>
>
>
> Or the same if considered better placed in Lupulella: (no "combining
> author" is cited or needs to previously exist)
>
> Lupulella mesomelas (Schreber, 1775)
> Lupulella mesomelas schmidti (Noack, 1897)
>
>
>
> The comma between the author name and the year is optional. I prefer it
> but some do not, which is also fine.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps, - Tony
>
>
> Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
>
> https://about.me/TonyRees
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>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 04:40, Mary Barkworth via Taxacom <
> taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:
>
> I should have been clearer. I found Lupulella mesomelas<
> https://openzoomuseum.org/taxa/index.php?taxon=341486> (Schreber, 1775)
> for the species- but have found no evidence that the appropriate
> combination for the subspecies has been formally published. Not sure what
> to do.
>
> From: Kenneth Kinman <kinman at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:35 AM
> To: (Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu) <Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>; Mary
> Barkworth <Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu>
> Subject: [EXT] Re: Please-can anyone send me publication information for
> these two names?
>
> Hi again,
>         Sorry, I didn't know that you meant the authors of the current
> name combinations.  The first usage of Lupulella mesomelas appears to come
> from a 2017 paper (see weblink below).  They don't seem to have mentioned
> the subspecies schmidti (just the species).
>                                                         ------------Ken
> Suvi Viranta<
> https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40850-017-0015-0#auth-1>,
> Anagaw Atickem<
> https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40850-017-0015-0#auth-2>,
> Lars Werdelin<
> https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40850-017-0015-0#auth-3>
> & Nils Chr. Stenseth<
> https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40850-017-0015-0#auth-4>
> BMC Zoology<https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/> volume 2, Article number:
> 6  volume 2, Article number: 6 (2017)
>    weblink:
> https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40850-017-0015-0
>
> ________________________________
> From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu<mailto:
> taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>> on behalf of Mary Barkworth via
> Taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu<mailto:taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:39 AM
> To: (Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu<mailto:Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>) <
> Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu<mailto:Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>>
> Subject: [Taxacom] Please-can anyone send me publication information for
> these two names?
>
> Lupulella mesomelas
> Lupulella mesomelas schmidti
>
> What I am looking for is authorship and year of publication for citation
> in standard zoological format.  I know the combinations are being used.
> Thank you.
> Mary
>
>
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