[Taxacom] [EXT] Re: Please-can anyone send me publication information for these two names?

Tony Rees tonyrees49 at gmail.com
Wed Mar 18 13:10:18 CDT 2020


For the record, the form L. m. schmidti is used in a 2020 paper by Machado
& Teta:
Morphometric analysis of skull shape reveals unprecedented diversity of
African Canidae. Journal of Mammalogy, gyz214,
https://doi.org/10.1093/jmammal/gyz214

Regards - Tony

On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 05:07, Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I should point out that the authorship and years I gave are those in
> Wilson & Reeder, Mammal Species of the World ed. 3, and seem to be used
> as standard. (Whether or not they are correct is a different matter, and is
> the question Francisco was referring to.)
>
> - Tony
>
>
> On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 04:53, Mary Barkworth <Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> That helps a lot. Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:49 AM
>> *To:* Mary Barkworth <Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu>
>> *Cc:* Kenneth Kinman <kinman at hotmail.com>; (Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu) <
>> Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Taxacom] [EXT] Re: Please-can anyone send me publication
>> information for these two names?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Mary,
>>
>>
>>
>> In zoology (as opposed to botany) there is no requirement for a
>> combination to be previously published to use it - anyone can recombine a
>> specific epithet with a different genus if they have a reason to do so, the
>> original authorship remains, it is just cited in parentheses to show that
>> the genus has been changed (also a rank change of itself does not generate
>> a change of authorship). Thus:
>>
>>
>>
>> Canis mesomelas Schreber, 1775
>>
>> Canis schmidti Noack, 1897
>>
>> or:
>> Canis mesomelas schmidti Noack, 1897
>>
>>
>>
>> Or the same if considered better placed in Lupulella: (no "combining
>> author" is cited or needs to previously exist)
>>
>> Lupulella mesomelas (Schreber, 1775)
>> Lupulella mesomelas schmidti (Noack, 1897)
>>
>>
>>
>> The comma between the author name and the year is optional. I prefer it
>> but some do not, which is also fine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps, - Tony
>>
>>
>> Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
>>
>> https://about.me/TonyRees
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 at 04:40, Mary Barkworth via Taxacom <
>> taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:
>>
>> I should have been clearer. I found Lupulella mesomelas<
>> https://openzoomuseum.org/taxa/index.php?taxon=341486> (Schreber, 1775)
>> for the species- but have found no evidence that the appropriate
>> combination for the subspecies has been formally published. Not sure what
>> to do.
>>
>> From: Kenneth Kinman <kinman at hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:35 AM
>> To: (Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu) <Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>; Mary
>> Barkworth <Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu>
>> Subject: [EXT] Re: Please-can anyone send me publication information for
>> these two names?
>>
>> Hi again,
>>         Sorry, I didn't know that you meant the authors of the current
>> name combinations.  The first usage of Lupulella mesomelas appears to come
>> from a 2017 paper (see weblink below).  They don't seem to have mentioned
>> the subspecies schmidti (just the species).
>>                                                         ------------Ken
>> Suvi Viranta<
>> https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40850-017-0015-0#auth-1>,
>> Anagaw Atickem<
>> https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40850-017-0015-0#auth-2>,
>> Lars Werdelin<
>> https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40850-017-0015-0#auth-3>
>> & Nils Chr. Stenseth<
>> https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40850-017-0015-0#auth-4>
>> BMC Zoology<https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/> volume 2, Article
>> number: 6  volume 2, Article number: 6 (2017)
>>    weblink:
>> https://bmczool.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40850-017-0015-0
>>
>> ________________________________
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>> taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>> on behalf of Mary Barkworth via
>> Taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu<mailto:taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 11:39 AM
>> To: (Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu<mailto:Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>) <
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>> Subject: [Taxacom] Please-can anyone send me publication information for
>> these two names?
>>
>> Lupulella mesomelas
>> Lupulella mesomelas schmidti
>>
>> What I am looking for is authorship and year of publication for citation
>> in standard zoological format.  I know the combinations are being used.
>> Thank you.
>> Mary
>>
>>
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